gordsellar’s avatargordsellar’s Twitter Archive—№ 8,925

                    1. …in reply to @undefined
                      @IsasV Oh, hell no. No infection parties here. You can go to prison for knowingly exposing people here—if you know you're infected, you're already under quarantine order and are required to stay home or in a quarantine center (even if asymptomatic).
                  1. …in reply to @gordsellar
                    @IsasV I mean, there are people who have knowingly infected others, but not "let's all get infected" parties like I've heard about in some US states. You can also go to prison here for lying to public health officials about being exposed, or otherwise not cooperating. Rightly so.
                1. …in reply to @gordsellar
                  @IsasV Of course, they also had to make some accommodations when there was a cluster of infections centered on gay clubs. The track-and-trace data was released, it was only semi-anonymous, and people were scared of being outed to their families, so anonymous tests were permitted.
              1. …in reply to @gordsellar
                @IsasV (Since Protestant groups here have repeatedly blocked the passage of anti-discrimination law here—specifically because they want the right to discriminate against gays—people who risked being outed also risked losing families, careers, possibly even worse repercussions.)
            1. …in reply to @gordsellar
              @IsasV But yeah, in general, people have generally been pretty compliant about working with virus containment efforts. Not that lots of people don't start socializing publicly everytime there's a lull in infections, but when there's a cluster or wave, people start staying home again.
          1. …in reply to @gordsellar
            @IsasV There are exceptions, mostly kooky religious groups. One (the one responsible for the early explosion of cases in Daegu) was, AFAIK outlawed; another was dealt with less harshly but still there's been threats of legal accountability for non-cooperation.
        1. …in reply to @gordsellar
          @IsasV I mean, there was a cram school teacher who made front page news here because he infected his students. He lied to investigators about his employment, IIRC—didn't want word to get back to his employer since he was exposed it at a gay club. He was a big news story for a while.
      1. …in reply to @gordsellar
        @IsasV Which is just to say I think people have a pretty clear sense that non-cooperation can cause a LOT of problems for them. You get middle-aged smoker guys who don't wear masks, but all in all, most people have been pretty compliant. (Except not staying home in recent months, sigh.)
    1. …in reply to @gordsellar
      @IsasV (And to be clear, again: I wish the guy had cooperated from the start and not infected his students, but given how identifying data was not very well-anonymized (though it could have been), and the lack of anti-discrimination law here, it was inevitable...)
  1. …in reply to @gordsellar
    @IsasV (If you want people to cooperate, maybe set things up in such a way that doing so doesn't mean risking losing one's family, job, social circle from past stages of their lives like high school and college, and so on.)
    1. …in reply to @gordsellar
      @IsasV Honestly, it wouldn't even be hard to set up the data disclosure to protect those outside a person's immediate circle. And it'd also be more ergonomic and easier to parse for everyone else, too if you did it right. But sadly nobody really saw the need or bothered...