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          1. …in reply to @JustinHowe
            @JustinHowe @SFRuminations You got me curious, since "Lai" is a term sometimes used for songs, and I stumbled onto this: journals.openedition.org/episteme/205 See especially paragraph 14 and the footnote attached to it! That's just one paper, though, and for other works, it's claimed she translated Latin or English...
        1. …in reply to @gordsellar
          @JustinHowe @SFRuminations But my impression is that vast amounts of writing has always been something like what we'd call "fanfic": the idea of someone (or an institution) having sole ownership of a narrative or characters is, in the bigger scheme of things, pretty recent and anomalous, I think.
      1. …in reply to @gordsellar
        @JustinHowe @SFRuminations Which isn't surprising: in an oral tradition, some degree of shuffling and decay is inevitable. This book really blew my mind in terms of alternate conceptions of creative work: publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft358004pc&chunk.id=d0e12347&toc.depth=100&toc.id=d0e12178&brand=ucpress (free to read online!)
    1. …in reply to @gordsellar
      @JustinHowe @SFRuminations You had troubadours who were like, "Hey, think you can remix this shit? Go for it!" Then you had others who were using tricky schemes like using homophones (deer/dear) in the last line of one verse and the first of the next to make sure people didn't mess up their songs.
  1. …in reply to @gordsellar
    @JustinHowe @SFRuminations Which of course shows some people even in oral traditions had a feeling of ownership over their songs/lyrics, but... others didn't seem to necessarily think that way. There was a range of opinions, but some remixing or changing was difficult to prevent.
    1. …in reply to @gordsellar
      @JustinHowe @SFRuminations We've just sort of arrived in a place where the opposite is true: an author like Lovecraft saying to his friends, "Remix my stuff in your stories!" is unusual, whereas if you go far back enough, that was how vast amounts of writing was done. Or that's my (amateur!) understanding.