gordsellar’s avatargordsellar’s Twitter Archive—№ 9,921

    1. Of course, the constant insults online and offline directed at women, LGBTQ folks, disabled, foreigners, poor, biracial Koreans, crime victims, etc. don't get discussed this way, & we must endlessly wait and discuss whether an anti-discrimination law is necessary. Of course. @koryodynasty/1491703295165222912
  1. …in reply to @gordsellar
    But oh, golly, emoticons are "defamation" and "can be" illegal. Any wagers how long it takes for some far-right manosphere kook here to apply that not to "🤮" but rather to "🤏"? Say, as a defense in his murder trial? "Her emoticonic defamation drove me to it, Your Honour."
    1. …in reply to @gordsellar
      I guess this is just another sign that we're on cue for a big push on the old "realname system" front: "Okay, real name systems are unconstitutional and did nothing last time we tried 'em, but how about PSEUDO-realname systems that are just as useless/bad? They're fine, right?"
      1. …in reply to @gordsellar
        Because this was, it's worth recalling, all done before. Korea had a real name system for years, until the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional. During that period, nothing significant was done about harassment and bullying online—no reduction at all: koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/08/117_118115.html
        1. …in reply to @gordsellar
          (But there were definite chilling effects. Students brought it up in group "free discussions" and in debates, speeches, and presentations, talking about their fear of criticizing what they felt were "bad policies" for fear of "punishment" by the "government.")
          1. …in reply to @gordsellar
            All of this isn't to say that online (and offline) bullying aren't rampant problems here. They are. Action is needed to address this—start w/major political figures dropping the Red Pill act. But Korean media opining on celebrity suicide/harassment is almost *never* about that.
            1. …in reply to @gordsellar
              The concern about celebrities who are harassed and commit suicide is a common pretext to argue for some online system that won't fix the problem at all (just as it didn't before), but will chill criticism and allow unprecedented access to people's online/private lives.
              1. …in reply to @gordsellar
                Also, it's worth remembering that (pseudo-)real name systems don't magically disappear once they're in place. One party might just "punish" bullies online. But another party later could use it to criminalize (even retroactively) any comment they wanted to online—even this one.
                1. …in reply to @gordsellar
                  It's an interesting—and distressing—thought exercise to imagine just what the major candidates for any upcoming election might retroactively criminalize, or how they might abuse unprecedented access into people's private lives. Seriously. Now think 3-6 elections further off...